conditions needed for a person to leave a high control group: [source].
1. courage.
a person must be very brave to leave a high control group.
Damn, I was reading those thinking of my mom and sister:
1- Nope, they have maybe 10% courage to do this
2- None, 0% of this for them
3- Maybe, about a 50/50 chance of this
4- No, 1-2% chance of this
I wish I lived closer so I could drop subtle facts about the cult, but then I risk them never talking to me again. Oh well, why ruin a perfectly sane delusion?
Thanks for the post.
jwn has been great for me.
i think i have deprogrammed pretty quick so far compared to many with all their loved ones in.
i am enjoying meeting up with posters off the board and fbing some too.
Not so much creepy, just some mean nasty turds to scared to say how they really feel in an open forum. If you disagree with someone, ignore it or call them out on the board. Why be so passive aggressive in a PM?
Keep up the good fight Kate. I enjoy reading your posts.
I agree with Cofty, if anyone gets inappropriate PM’s, let a mod know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncehcvrvgq.
of course
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncehcvrvgq.
how would you want him to pray?
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full." Matt 6:5
I used to buy into that emotional blackmail. No more.
Well said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncehcvrvgq.
I got 5 min in and want to slit my wrists as he started to pray "Oh Father, Father..."
go to jw.org right now friends and you will see a young male jw witnessing in a rural setting with publication in hand and - take careful note - wearing a crisply-white open-neck shirt.
bring out the carnival, light the lights: the organ ization is kicking itself into an ongoing casualization of its rank and file.. in the 1960s through 1980s i know brothers who dared to attire themselves sans ties who were reprimanded or worse.
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I was counseled a couple of times for leaving my top button unbuttoned while wearing a tie. It was synched tightly but for a time I had a fatter neck and some shirts were uncomfortable. He (An elder) asked another brother, an MS at the time and a close friend, “whats up with him (me)?” He told him he didn’t know. He said he never noticed. It was the same elder that got after me for not shaving while I was doing the sound box. It was barley 2 days without shaving. Some elders are more militant nazi zombies than others.
i made a short marionette show for my adult family and accidentally set the curtain on fire!.
it was years since we had all our sons together, and with no money for presents--i did what i had done before i jumped on board with jw-screw-the-holidays thinking.
we made stuff up and had a good time.. and we did it again after some really rough years.. i don't know how else to get there but go to youtube.
....well...that's it really.. i left jwn a few months ago but did say i'd pop in.. i hope you are all well!.
regards paul.
have been visiting jwn for about a week now and it motivated me to join.
i look forward to meeting everyone i can and learning from their experiences and wisdom as i search for more and more reasons not to get reinstated.
here's most of my story:.
Welcome!
I’m amazed they initially didn’t DF you. They must have really liked you. I had a JC meeting for drunkenness in 2010. I wasn’t DF’d because I was “repentant”. They knew for years before this that I had a struggle with alcohol. But it was about 6 – 9 months later that I began questioning everything because of the lack of love they showed and the way I was treated after the announcement that I was publicly reproved. Things just weren’t adding up for me.
It is unbelievable all you learn once you open Pandora’s Box. Once open, you can’t close it. My head was spinning
My family and I celebrated Christmas for the first time this year too. My wife followed me out about a year and a half after I left. Good luck with everything. I look forward to reading more of your story.
go to jw.org right now friends and you will see a young male jw witnessing in a rural setting with publication in hand and - take careful note - wearing a crisply-white open-neck shirt.
bring out the carnival, light the lights: the organ ization is kicking itself into an ongoing casualization of its rank and file.. in the 1960s through 1980s i know brothers who dared to attire themselves sans ties who were reprimanded or worse.
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Different country, different rules? I was in Hawaii in the mid 90’s and we did “beech witnessing” and I was allowed to take my dress shoes and socks off, and my tie with the top button open while witnessing on the beech.
